tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13095695.post4770773486674451935..comments2023-10-22T17:40:51.323-04:00Comments on Tativille: New Film: Everyone ElseMichael J. Andersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12333893240336518881noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13095695.post-17003023991012243452010-05-19T20:39:11.816-04:002010-05-19T20:39:11.816-04:00You made a bit of a slip there in describing the o...You made a bit of a slip there in describing the one going 'comatose' as Ade rather than Gitti. This scene recalled Ade for me, though, having seen her previous film, in that she essentially remolds the ending which was stylistically incongruous there but is now presented in a stylistically fitting and, as such, more alive manner, thus allowing a character to penetrate the metaphor where in the previous film she was alone - this is the point of the scene, but it is a fully surreal one whereas here it is only apparently surreal, burst by his interaction. I initially had the same feeling that you had, that it switched from day to night, initially thinking he had pulled a Samantha Morton in Morvern Callar, but then it dawned on me that it was just a darkly shadowed wall.<br /><br />If I may, I would suggest checking out Angela Schanelec's work as many seem to regard her as the best of the relatively young German filmmakers (I haven't seen much aside from Ade and Schanelec, but I find the latter to be a far more accomplished visual, formal, and structural filmmaker, although she's a good deal less 'commercial' in that her films are much less 'exciting' and my favorite of hers, Marseille, is formally very complex and dense and wonderful).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13095695.post-43980147467216780782010-05-17T05:43:45.176-04:002010-05-17T05:43:45.176-04:00Finally this is my first time I pop in here. I dis...Finally this is my first time I pop in here. I discovered a lot of remarkable substance on your webpage specially its conversation.Radu Prisacaruhttp://www.raduprisacaru.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13095695.post-27883165452359346892010-04-22T19:22:01.687-04:002010-04-22T19:22:01.687-04:00Tripzone, I have just received confirmation of you...Tripzone, I have just received confirmation of your point. As such, I have amended the piece so that it will not be misleading in future. I tend to prefer accuracy even if it means that I must be revisionist. Thanks again.Michael J. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333893240336518881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13095695.post-33031410024981001302010-04-19T21:44:15.939-04:002010-04-19T21:44:15.939-04:00Thank you for your excellent contribution, tripzon...Thank you for your excellent contribution, tripzone. My guess is that you are indeed right that Ade does not shift from day to night to day as I suggested in my post. I got this impression at the time, but in retrospect I'm sure I was wrong. 97% seems about right.Michael J. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333893240336518881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13095695.post-37745863068523995362010-04-19T05:52:39.628-04:002010-04-19T05:52:39.628-04:00I very much agree with all of this. However, I'...I very much agree with all of this. However, I'm 97% sure it's the same day after that cut in the conclusion. Her phone rings, he walks into the next room, cut, he's in that room having just cried for a while, the phone rings again, which he this time answers. Only a couple of hours max have passed, I would say.<br /><br />[spoilers to follow]<br /><br />This concluding charade nicely ties back to the little allegory at the beginning with the boyfriend's neice (which itself sets up a central idea present in the film "If you hate me, tell me").<br /><br />I particularly like the scene with her jumping out the window, and the proceeding sex scene. Together they crystalise the dynamic (problem?) of the relationship. Earlier he mentions a dream in which he soars out the window to express his love for her, thus explaining her action there. But he doesn't recognise the act (story-wise of course he just doesn't see her, metaphorically speaking we know). And whilst having sex he (finally?) is the first to proclaim love. Though I agree we're never totally aware of how he feels, positioning Ade and us more in line with Gitti than Chris, it seems at this stage he appreciates their lust perhaps more than everything else. And Gitti seems to feel the same, considering her following behaviour.<br /><br />Excellent film. You can tell Ade made her actors watch Bergman and Cassavetes, the interactions are complex and extremely well-observed. The best German film I've seen in some time. Though I do like Yella quite a bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com